The San Bernardino county sheriff has confirmed the presence of an active shooter near the 1300 block of S. Waterman in San Bernardino, CA. At least 12 people are dead, with another 20 are reportedly injured.

The city’s Fire Department says on Twitter that many as 20 people may have been shot so far. A SWAT team appears to be on the scene and emergency crews are reportedly setting up a triage center near the city’s convention center.

California has some of the strictest gun laws in America.

California has some of the strictest gun laws in America.

guns don't kill people. guns control kills people

You see, when people want to impose laws or take rights away from everyone based on the actions of a few and they use terminology that is incorrect, it takes away from their credibility. It also makes you question how much they really understand about their own argument.

It's not the actions of a few, though. There's a mass shooting every week in America. I'm perfectly happy requiring people to go through rigorous background checks and licensing procedures to own a weapon capable of mass murder. And what terminology are you referring to?

I am also not opposed to a more rigorous approval process. See my idea below.

Terminology? Magazine vs Clip. There are VERY few firearms that use a "clip". Most semi-automatic firearms use magazines.

in before same thread as every other thread about a mass shooting in America, with the same opinions from the same people

in before Obama says something must be done

in before nothing is done

That idea is a start, but it leaves a lot to be desired IMO. The idea of requiring a license like you have to get in order to drive a car is a good one.

As far as using the term 'clip' instead of 'magazine', I'm pretty sure everyone knows what I mean and I don't think it hurts my credibility or understanding of the topic, considering how often the terms are interchanged. Besides, I'm not suggesting I be the one to draft new regulations; you and I are not the ones who need to be credible.

I'm sure lots of people know what you mean when you say clip. But you couldn't identify the terminology conflict when asked. This could also indicate your extended knowledge of firearms. If you make basic mistakes like this when speaking about magazine fed, semi-automatic firearms, what else do you not really understand?

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All I'm saying is, it's never any good to have people who really don't understand the problem trying to fix it.

I'm not suggesting I be the one to draft new regulations; you and I are not the ones who need to be credible.

Because I don't know the difference between a clip and a magazine, I don't understand the problem? That's a really weak argument, dude.

So you can't see how not knowing the basics might prevent you from understanding the complexities? Interesting.

Well at least we agree that something needs to be done.