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PostPosted: 03-07-2005 06:39 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3791795.stm

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Pretty neat.



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PostPosted: 03-07-2005 06:40 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


this thing again



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PostPosted: 03-07-2005 06:43 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


old...but the military is working on real cloaking...



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PostPosted: 03-07-2005 06:43 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


it's unimpressive



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PostPosted: 03-07-2005 06:43 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


the military also kidnapped elvis

he knew too much :(



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PostPosted: 03-07-2005 06:43 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Massive Quasars wrote:
it's unimpressive


and old
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PostPosted: 03-07-2005 06:44 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


cool :smirk:
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Actually werent those pics proved fake?
Not fake as in photoshopped but the clothing was just clothing and a seperate camera/projector used.
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PostPosted: 03-07-2005 06:57 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Old? I had no idea.



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blood.angel wrote:
Actually werent those pics proved fake?
Not fake as in photoshopped but the clothing was just clothing and a seperate camera/projector used.


Yes, it appears on 'monitor' to be camoflauged, but to the naked eye the dude is just standing there with a jacket.
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strange - wonder why BBC would use fake photos

any links to the explanation of these photos?
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PostPosted: 03-07-2005 10:59 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


They are NOT fake.

btw cloaks
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brian - we went to lounge 88 that night, but you had already left and the place was closing down - we didn't get there until 2:30am though :(

looked really nice - the beaded curtains and the incense was pretty good shit.
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PostPosted: 03-07-2005 11:21 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


yes, they are not fake... goto the tokyo university site that is working on it... they have videos too.
and btw, this story is so old indiana jones is about to go looking for it.
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PostPosted: 03-07-2005 11:22 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


heh @ Watty



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PostPosted: 03-07-2005 11:45 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Dr_Watson wrote:
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and btw, this story is so old indiana jones is about to go looking for it.


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PostPosted: 03-07-2005 11:48 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


http://projects.star.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/pr ... xv/oc.html

http://projects.star.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/pr ... hure-e.pdf

More on how you have to 'look through a peephole' and the projector only projects onto the cloak'

Everyone else viewing normally sees a dude in a silver cloak. :)




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i guess I didn't catch the sarcasm in dekard's earlier post. :shrug:
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PostPosted: 03-07-2005 11:53 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


It's not fake, but not as revolutionary as it looks, you have to have a peephole and setup to view the technology, not very useful for everyday applications. People wouldn't see the technology unless you forced them to look through said peephole.
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ok wtf there seem to be two technologies displayed on that page -

rendering an object transparent, and being able to see INTO solid objects.
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PostPosted: 03-07-2005 11:59 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


The solid objects are the same technology, like the guy with the bones, thats just a computer image projected onto the paper he is using, not actually looking into his bones. :)
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See the thing with this technology is that although it's been announced several times it's also been discounted just as many. People don't know if it's real or if it's fake.
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PostPosted: 03-07-2005 12:12 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Kracus wrote:
See the thing with this technology is that although it's been announced several times it's also been discounted just as many. People don't know if it's real or if it's fake.


Also, people look at the pictures and say OMGWTFROLFBBQ, and it's an image from the videographers point of view that will always see the camoflauge point of view, it's neat but not like this guy can sit in a field and not be seen. It's a projected camoflauge and you have to be looking through a viewer to see it. Other then that it's not a big deal, now if they could create the projector, and film, and project via the jacket all encompassed into the jacket that would be something but as it stands it's a third person technology.
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Dekard wrote:
The solid objects are the same technology, like the guy with the bones, thats just a computer image projected onto the paper he is using, not actually looking into his bones. :)


i'm confused as hell - so that wasn't a real demonstration of any new technology - it was more of a demonstration of what the technology COULD be like, using cheap methods

right?

and what's this projector stuff you're on about? (edit: nm reading that link in your earlier post)

btw you guys ever hear of angel light and troy hubertise?
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ah ok i understand the way it works now - that's pretty lame - i thought the cloak actually had mini cameras and mini "tv screens" actually embedded into it.

btw cuttle fish and octopi are incredible at cloaking
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ok now i'm super confused - i looked at another video on that site, and there's no way there was a camera behind the object, as portrayted in the brochure

http://projects.star.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/pr ... s/oc-s.mpg
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PostPosted: 03-07-2005 01:08 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Dr_Watson wrote:
and btw, this story is so old indiana jones is about to go looking for it.


:lol:
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OLED, digital paper, and other small screen technologies will make it more viable. with a thin plastic film that is an oled display matrix you could wire a person or object with cameras, put the plastic film over what you want to conceal and then display the camera's images on the film.
but until display screens get more flexible it just makes for fancy photographs.
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[xeno]Julios wrote:
ok now i'm super confused - i looked at another video on that site, and there's no way there was a camera behind the object, as portrayted in the brochure

http://projects.star.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/pr ... s/oc-s.mpg


It's just a static image projected onto the items.. sheesh :)
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so the projected image was prerecorded right? It wasn't being captured and projected realtime obviously, since there was no camera in sight.
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